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Info-Mac Digest             Mon, 27 Oct 97       Volume 15 : Issue 231

Today's Topics:

      
      [Q]  PC-CD for Mac
      American Typewriter Font?
      Apple's future in the PC world
      Apple's future in the PC world
      Apple's future in the PC world
      Bansai movie, not! Rather Banzai
      CD-ROM problem
      Desktop pictures control panel
      Easy Access & Kensington Turbo Mouse
      frames capable browser.
      frames-capable browser
      Info-Mac Digest V15 #228
      InfoBeat's Outlook Express
      Mac crashes
      Mac OS 8 Page Setup always reverts to A4?
      Mac OS 8 Page Setup always reverts to A4?
      Macintosh mail-order in the UK?
      Netware admin from Mac?
      OS 7.6
      OS8 Sound input
      PC Compatibility Card with MacOS 8
      QuickTime VR
      RAM
      Reaching Info-Mac archives
      read/write CD
      System 3.2
      System 8 & 68040
      used/reconditioned/refurbished Macs in the UK/NZ...

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 10:41:37 BST
From: Ian.Goldby@powertech.co.uk
Subject: 

This may not be the most useful answer, but I would say that by far the best 
solution is to upgrade the LaserJet 4+ for PostScript. The PostScript card 
is not expensive, and very easy to fit, and it would give you the most 
straight forward and flexible solution.

Ian.

Chris Gervais <cg601@user1.channel1.com> wrote:
>
>I currently connect my Macintosh to our Windows 95 peer-to-peer network
>via PC-MacLAN. We have a couple of printers on our network, but alas,
>they're not PostScript (there all HP LaserJet 4+). Does anyone know of a
>way to print to a non-PostScript printer over a network? Is such a thing
>possible? Would those GDT PowerPrint drivers help at?
>
>TIA,
>
>Chris

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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:41:35 +0100
From: larscj@vip.cybercity.dk (Lars C. Jensen)
Subject: [Q]  PC-CD for Mac

Dear MacFellows

Is it possible to use a PC-CD-drive (SCSI or SCSI-2) in a Mac? I=B4m going
to replace the internal CD-drive in my 840 AV, and it seems to me that
PC-drives are quite a lot cheaper than Mac-drives - at least here in
Denmark.

TIA

Lars

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:33:17 -0600
From: tedlogan@tulsa.com (Ted Logan)
Subject: American Typewriter Font?

I'm looking for a Mac version of the old DOS Underwood font, which looks
like, well, the type from an old Underwood typewriter.  Very nice for form
letters, giving the impression that they are indeed individually "typed."
A colleague in England recommended "American Typewriter," but is having
trouble sending it to me (FreePPP problems!).

Directions for locating Underwood or American Typewriter or anything
similar for Macintosh systems would be appreciated.

Ted Logan
Logan Writing, Inc.
Cleveland, Oklahoma
tedlogan@tulsa.com

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 16:35:02 +0100
From: Christian F Buser <cbuser@access.ch>
Subject: Apple's future in the PC world

tedlogan@tulsa.com (Ted Logan) wrote:

> I subscribe to InfoBeat, a free email information service that sends me
> financial updates, including stock quotes, twice a day, in conventional
> email format.  Lately their emails have included a notice suggesting that I
> "upgrade" to a new form of service that will bring me my twice-daily doses
> of financial news and stock quotes in the form of "graphics-rich"
> Web-page-style documents, "including animation."  Turns out this is a
> Windows-dependent Microsoft application available *free*, but only to
> Windows users.  No Macintosh users need apply.

Hi Ted,

It is the fatalism like yours which makes the "gap" between Windows and
Macintosh "acceptance" bigger and bigger. Instead of saying that you
keep your old version, you better should write to the service's CEO and
ask whether they can afford losing clients by not offering equivalent
services to Mac users.

Cheers. Christian.

--
Christian F. Buser - phone (+41-56) 426 64 86
Obere Kirchzelg 12, CH-5430 Wettingen (Switzerland)
Look at <http://www.access.ch/mus/members/cbuser>

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 13:23:38 -0700
From: tedlogan@tulsa.com (Ted Logan)
Subject: Apple's future in the PC world

>tedlogan@tulsa.com (Ted Logan) wrote:
>
>> I subscribe to InfoBeat, a free email information service that sends me
>> financial updates, including stock quotes, twice a day, in conventional
>> email format.  Lately their emails have included a notice suggesting that I
>> "upgrade" to a new form of service that will bring me my twice-daily doses
>> of financial news and stock quotes in the form of "graphics-rich"
>> Web-page-style documents, "including animation."  Turns out this is a
>> Windows-dependent Microsoft application available *free*, but only to
>> Windows users.  No Macintosh users need apply.
>
>Hi Ted,
>
>It is the fatalism like yours which makes the "gap" between Windows and
>Macintosh "acceptance" bigger and bigger. Instead of saying that you
>keep your old version, you better should write to the service's CEO and
>ask whether they can afford losing clients by not offering equivalent
>services to Mac users.
>
>Cheers. Christian.
>
>--
>Christian F. Buser - phone (+41-56) 426 64 86
>Obere Kirchzelg 12, CH-5430 Wettingen (Switzerland)
>Look at <http://www.access.ch/mus/members/cbuser>

Hello, Christian.  I take your point, but I think it is the business of
Apple's management to pursue and engage their competition, not yours and
mine.  Apple users have for years mistakenly, in my view, pursued, even
embraced, the notion that it is their job to proselytize for Apple and to
market Apple products.  It may be entirely appropriate and even enjoyable
and fulfilling for Apple customers to act as Apple promoters, but it's not
their job.  It is not Apple's customer's responsibility to keep Apple
afloat.  That is the job of Apple's management; it is what they're paid
for.  I argue that they have failed to do their job and are still failing,
from what I can tell, even to understand that Apple promotion,
distribution, and marketing *is* their job.

As a businessman, I take the view that Apple's shareholders must dismiss
the current Board of Directors and install an entirely new Board with a new
Chairperson/CEO whose urgent charge should be to save the company from
going out of business, neither more nor less.  Otherwise, no matter how
much we Apple/Macintosh users may ask operations like InfoBeat (and hosts
of others today who barely recognize or simply ignore as being
inconsequential the existence of a Macintosh market) to include Macintosh
software for us, the answers we get back will increasingly be, "Sorry, too
much trouble for too few users.  Buy Windows."

Indeed, Christian, that is the very answer I am seeing daily.  If you know
how to contact the Apple Board of Directors, I suggest you do so urgently
and ask them how long they think they can stay in business depending on us
customers to do their jobs for them.  And by all means tell them about
InfoBeat, because it is Apple that must write the software, not InfoBeat
(see, please, below).

Because, you see, the answer to your original point, "you better should
write to the service's CEO and ask whether they can afford losing clients
by not offering equivalent services to Mac users," is yes, InfoBeat and
others *can* afford to ignore us because, in the USA, at least, our numbers
are becoming fewer and fewer.

And finally, so as to stray not too far from the real point of my InfoBeat
example, it is *not* InfoBeat's software that is being offered!  It is
*Microsoft's* software!  Microsoft has written special software to enhance
and improve InfoBeat's service and has either given it or leased it to
InfoBeat to offer to InfoBeat subscribers as a free download *compatible
with Microsoft's Windows system, only*.  If I write to anyone, it will have
be to Apple, not InfoBeat.  Thanks to your raising your point Christian, I
will now do so, and I will post their reply to Info-Mac when and if I get
one.

With best wishes from a loyal - but realistic - fellow Macintosh user.

Ted Logan
Logan Writing, Inc.
Cleveland, Oklahoma
tedlogan@tulsa.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:00:05 -0400
From: "Edward W. Ver Hoef" <EVerHoef@digizen.net>
Subject: Apple's future in the PC world

In Info-mac V15, #228, Ted Logan made a very significant observation
regarding one of the reasons that the PC is dominant in the market, i.e.,
there is a lot of very useful software in the market which will only run on
a PC-based system.

My son-in-law's father is an optomitrist and was finding that his manual
methods for keeping office records was rapidly becoming a bottleneck. He
was thinking of getting a PC to automate much of it. My son-in-law is a
died-in-the-wool Mac user and tried very hard to get his dad to go for a
Mac. The problem was that there appeared to be no such software for the
Mac. He was convinced to buy a Mac with a built-in PC card and then run the
software on that. He tried it but found that when printing bills, it took
forever because the PC software would think it was writing to the printer
but it was really writing to the Mac OS. Then some application within the
Mac OS had to rewrite it to the printer. He eventually took the Mac home
and bought a PC.

I am planning to buy a motor home and would like to get a software/hardware
suite that will enable me to get position information from GPS satellites
and apply that to a mapping system so I can see precisely where I am,
determine the best route to get where I want to go, check my progress, etc.
Susch systems are available for the PC world but so far I have been
unsuccesful in finding one for the Mac world. My bank and my broker both
offer on-line systems to keep track of my transactions but both are
PC-based and have no plans to add Mac capability.

The common thread here is a paucity of software. You can't fault the
software developers. I was in the software development business for 38
years before retirement and the wise thing to do is develop software for
the broadest market. In this case it is the PC. That certainly isn't the
best piece of hardware. Neither was the IBM System 360 in its day but that
was always our first target platform because it represented the widest
market. Other computer systems either failed or established niche markets
that exploited their specific capabilities. That's sort of what has
happened to the Mac. It still does well in the desktop publishing business
and other places where top-drawer graphics and presentation capability are
important. But in almost every other arena, the software is developed
exclusively for the PC or is a port of PC software to the Mac ( e.g.,
Microsoft Office) with all the disadvantages and baggage of that world and
little exploitation of the particular excellences of the Mac. The only way
out of this situation , I'm afraid, is bigger penetration of the hardware
into the market and that doesn't seem to be in the cards. I believe that
train has already pulled out of the station and Apple is not on board and
perhaps not even in the station.

As I said in my previous post on this topic, this situation saddens me
greatly. The Mac is a great  hardware/software system. But so were the
Control Data 6000 and 7000 series computers in the 70's when IBM didn't
have a single computer well oriented to scientific computing but they had a
terrific sales force. They soon managed to penetrate even the scientific
computing community (e.g., the weather bureau) and where is Control Data
now? I don't see an equivalent effort at Apple. Perhaps they have some
other strategy but if so, it's not obvious and seems to have no effect that
I can detect.

Ed Ver Hoef

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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:53:38 -0500
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <psheldon@utdallas.edu>
Subject: Bansai movie, not! Rather Banzai

	banzai : A Japanese battle cry or patriotic cheer (also spelled as
bonzai, as my gps navigational newton program is).
	Evidentally, both the battle cry and the dwarf Japanese tree can
have the spelling, bonzai, the spelling of my program. But, to rent the
video that inspired the program use the spelling, banzai.
	My spelling memory is poor, sorry. I thought I had corrected myself
in another post.
	Somebody joked privately that both my program and movie made
allusions to being about a Japanese dwarf potted plant, which, in a
dictionary, is actually "bonsai" where, in Japanese, bon means basin and
sai means to plant.
	Somebody else wondered about lack of instructions with the demo
version I submitted. I had thought to deny instructions save to those who
paid the shareware fee, but now have worked up a draft walking through what
the demo demonstrates. I am sorry, again, for whatever frustration this may
have caused.
	For those who ask, my beta testers, I will send that draft for us
to clean up together. I find lack of understanding of beta testers helps me
get my ideas clearer. Communication takes practice and feedback.
	Perhaps I shall soon build a little demo freeware program to prove
that I can make the newton talk and say things like "95 degrees left" and
"passing milestone".
	When I do make the speech demo, please don't anyone confuse my
newton speech with the battle cry of a pruned and dwarfed Japanese potted
plant!
	;-)

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:24:30 -0600
From: Steve Waechter <waechter@ibw.com.ni>
Subject: CD-ROM problem

I have a 4X CD-ROM drive attached to a Mac LC (system 7.5), using CD-ROM
Toolkit version 1.6.3H. I keep getting the message: "Your CD-ROM drive
takes a long time to determine if it is ready. Therefore, mounting CDs may
take longer. Sometimes, multisession CDs (or Photo CDs) cause this delay."
But I'm not using multisession CDs; in fact, I get this message when I
haven't even inserted a CD into the drive. AND, the busy light keeps
blinking all the time, even when there's nothing in the drive. Any
ideas/advice/suggestions will be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Dr. Steve Waechter
waechter@ibw.com.ni

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:04:28 -0400
From: "Edward W. Ver Hoef" <EVerHoef@digizen.net>
Subject: Desktop pictures control panel

In Info-mac V15, #228, someone asked:
>
>I have installed Mac OS 8 on my Starmax 3000/180.  The Desktop pictures
>control panel is installed in the control panels folder.  When I open the
>control panel, I get a message that says,"the control panel must be installed
>in the control panels folder or the desktop pictures will not display...".
>  I have looked at apple.com for some clues but found none.  I have looked in
>some of your info-mac digests and find no reference to any problems.  Is
>there an extension missing or something? Any ideas?  Thanks

I had a similar problem, I tried several things to no avail until I rebuilt
the desktop. Every since then things have been dandy.  Give it a try and
see if it works for you.

Ed Ver Hoef

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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:31:25 -0400
From: "McCown, Robert B." <mccown@acm.org>
Subject: Easy Access & Kensington Turbo Mouse

Easy Access & Kensington Turbo Mouse

Easy Access with Sticky Keys is an excellent aid for the disabled.
The Kensington Turbo Mouse has had problems with Easy Access for the
last several versions.  The workaround to these problems is to make
sure that the "Kensington Startup" file loads after Easy Access,
and that the Easy Access Sticky Keys are enabled at startup.

Kensington software normally installs the Kensington Startup into the
Extensions folder.  Instead, you must move "Kensington Startup" from 
the Extensions folder and put it into the Control Panels folder.

Now, restart the computer and enable Sticky Keys in the Easy Access
control panel immediately after startup.  Restart the computer again.
Now select Easy Access in the Finder.  Go to the File menu and select
"Get Info". This brings up the Get Info Dialog for Easy Access. Click
on the "locked" box.  Now, the conflict is resolved.  Also, if someone
else uses your computer and disables Easy Access, it will be enabled
on restart.

It would be nice if people posting problems post an e-mail address.

> Kensington Conflict (Dave Rudance , Thu 2:18 PM)
> 
> 
> I have just purchased a Kensington Turbo Mouse 5.0(4 button) and I seem
> to have a conflict with the Easy Access that comes with OS 8.  I use
> Easy Access for the Sticky Keys and was wondering if anybody else was
> having or has run across this same problem.  I have contacted both
> Kensington and Apple and have drawn a blank.  Any help would be
> appreciated.  I am running a PowerPC/132 48 Ram

--------------------------
Robert B. McCown  <mccown@acm.org>

4262 Clairmont Road
Columbus, OH 43220
(614) 459-2895

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 14:02:21 -0600
From: James Atkinson <c428574@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: frames capable browser.

Douglas:
     There isn't much that you can do about this, but there is something 
that the page designers can do...insert a <noframes> command into their 
HTML code so that browsers that don't do well with frames may still have 
access.  This is especially important to sight-impaired folks who use 
text-only (e.g. Lynx) or Braille browsers, neither of which tend not to 
handle frames very well, if at all.  I.E., companies/organizations that 
work strictly with frames are refusing access to a significant chunk of 
their disabled audience, and might have a financial incentive to use the 
<noframes> instruction.

James Atkinson
engja@showme.missouri.edu

On 10/23/1997 09:45 AM Douglas Anderson said:

>Hi all,
>
>I'm finding more and more now-a-days that when surfing the internet
>that I'm getting more and more of these notices:
>
>(Sorry, to view the C3 in its new form requires a frames capable
>browser.)
>
>I use a text only BBS and Zterm, its a direct dialin BBS, and to what I
>understand I can't use one of the big name browsers with a Direct
>dialin BBS.
>
>Is there anything that I can do about this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Doug.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Doug Anderson
>
>email:un162@freenet.victoria.bc.ca

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:38:31 +0100
From: Tim Hodgson <txh@otis.u-net.com>
Subject: frames-capable browser

>I use a text only BBS and Zterm, its a direct dialin BBS, and to what I
>understand I can't use one of the big name browsers with a Direct
>dialin BBS.
>
>Is there anything that I can do about this?

Doug,
The current version of Lynx (2.7.?), a text-only browser, copes with
frames, and there's a Mac port, MacLynx, available from the usual sites.

Check the home page at
<http://www.lirmm.fr/~gutkneco/maclynx>
- assuming you can get access to it somehow :-)

 The version I have is a beta, but seems stable (in fact rock-solid
compared to the big two) - and it's fast!

Tim

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:55:21 -0700
From: Max <max@psnw.com>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #228

AutoClock is wonderfully connected to the Naval Observatory and can be
accessed automatically by modem.  Try it.

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 13:40:19 -0700
From: tedlogan@tulsa.com (Ted Logan)
Subject: InfoBeat's Outlook Express

Correction.

I have just learned that InfoBeat's (http://www.infobeat.com) "Outlook
Express" software, which I have been saying is available only to Windows
users, will be released (by Microsoft!) in a Macintosh version "later in
1997."

So even though it may seem that Apple doesn't care about us, Microsoft
apparently does.

Not sure this does much to ease the concerns of people like Al Bloom and me
over Apple's future, but at least it may mean we don't have to go broke
when Apple does.

Ted Logan
Logan Writing, Inc.
Cleveland, Oklahoma
tedlogan@tulsa.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:41:55 -0700
From: Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com>
Subject: Mac crashes

Rhonda K. Aronwald asked:

>When I used Mac's pre-networks and pre-browsers, I never had a problem with
>them.  Both Mac's I have had at two separate workplaces which have been on
>networks crash routinely.  Being a Web author, I use Netscape quite a bit
>which
>seems to cause a multitude of problems (especially Communicator and
>Composer).
>It is enough to make PC's seem appealing.  Do other people experience these
>problems?  What is being done to make Mac's more compatible with networks?

I can't speak for the whole Apple platform (!) but I have used Macs on a
wide variety of networks and have never had problems at all, from an
all-Apple 6-device network at home to a large Unix/Windows95/WindowsNT/Mac
network at work. In fact, at work, the Mac is the "safe zone" where people
can send things that somehow just don't work right on other machines. The
Mac, running $10 shareware NetPresenz, just chugs along as a totally
dependable web and ftp server, and shared device.

I think your networking or system setups must not be set completely right,
or you have cable problems or something like that. I wouldn't be so quick
to blame the machine before investigating other possibilities.

Daly Jessup

				Daly Jessup mailto:jessup@san.rr.com

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 16:42:31 +0100
From: Christian F Buser <cbuser@access.ch>
Subject: Mac OS 8 Page Setup always reverts to A4?

Thomas Fruin <tfruin@nido.cl> wrote:

> When using a couple of programs (like Emailer 2.0, Netscape 4.01, etc.)
> and using the LaserWriter driver that comes with Mac OS 8, I've noticed
> that the Page Setup tends to revert back to size A4.

Try holding down the OPTION key while clicking OK in the PageSetup dialog.

Cheers, Christian.

--
Christian F. Buser - phone (+41-56) 426 64 86
Obere Kirchzelg 12, CH-5430 Wettingen (Switzerland)
Look at <http://www.access.ch/mus/members/cbuser>

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:08:31 +0100
From: Sven Luetkemeier <luetkem@uni-duesseldorf.de>
Subject: Mac OS 8 Page Setup always reverts to A4?

At 15:05 +0100 22.10.1997, Thomas Fruin wrote:

> When using a couple of programs (like Emailer 2.0, Netscape 4.01, etc.)
> and using the LaserWriter driver that comes with Mac OS 8, I've noticed
> that the Page Setup tends to revert back to size A4. This is not what we
> use here (US letter).

You might try to save the settings in the page setup dialog by clicking the
OK button while holding the option key. Works for me.

Regards, Sven

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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 97 02:14:37 +0200
From: Tomi Radnoti <aioa@earthling.net>
Subject: Macintosh mail-order in the UK?

On 22 Oct 1997 Mark Fiske <mfiske@nike.heidelberg.edu> wrote:

>I am in NEED of some WEBSITE URLs of Mac mail-order warehouses in the UK.
>Any help will be GREATLY appreciated.

Try these two:

<http://www.performance-direct.co.uk/>
<http://www.macline.co.uk/>

Tomi

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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:18:51 -0700
From: Chris Beck <cbeck@acme.csusb.edu>
Subject: Netware admin from Mac?

Our campus computer labs have a very similar environment, although we do
use Intel machines to do the administration.  Without using a Pentium card,
VPC, etc., the only thing admin tool that runs on the Mac is Remote
Console, the Mac version of RCONSOLE.  If you have Win95 running under VPC
you should be able to run NWADMIN or even NWADMIN95.  Between NWADMIN,
FILER, PCONSOLE, and the MS-DOS command FLAG you should be able to do
anything that is required for administering NetWare 4.11.

One piece of advice though: don't run AppleTalk on the server.  Use the
Novell NetWare Client for MacOS v5.11.  That way no binding of AppleTalk is
needed, NetWare for Macintosh is not needed, you get better performance on
the Mac workstations connecting, and, most importantly, the server will be
more stable (at least that is what we have found at our site).

>I have been put in charge of our departmental network administration
>(Netware 4.11, mixed Mac and Wintel clients) and being strictly a Mac user
>have the problem that the Netware Administration program only runs on the
>Wintel side.
>
>Two questions:
>1 Is there a Mac admin program for Netware? Our network administrator says
>no-but they don't understand Mac's.
>2 Would Virtual PC running Win95 allow me to do this one job from my Mac.
>
>Anyone who is in a similar environment and can offer to help me out would
>be greatly appreciated.
>
>-Bob D.
>Builder and pilot of Kinetic Sculpture vehicle "Killer Tomato"
>Top ten reasons why you should build a Kinetic Sculpture Vehicle:
>#7 Satisfies your desire to dissect bicycles
>
>-

Chris Beck, Student/Network Analyst
Academic Computing and Media
California State University, San Bernardino

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:52:15 -0700
From: Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com>
Subject: OS 7.6

>On Wed, 15 Oct Jerry J. Grill wrote
>
>>All of my System and Application Folders are locked and I can not unlock
>>them. The General control shows that tey are not marked for protection.
>>
>>The files inside of the folders can be deleted but the folders can not
>>be moved or trashed.

Al Bloom answered:

>Jerry, boot with your System Tools floppy. Then delete what you want.
>
>If the files maintain they are locked, press the OPTION key while you
>request emptying the trash.

And I add: I had a consulting client with this problem once. I was about to
reformat his drive and reinstall everything because I could not find any
way around it, when luckily I discovered that in his formatting software
(FWB? Apple? I don't recall) there was a setting to lock the drive! I have
no idea how that got checked, but I unchecked it and his drive was back to
normal. Very satisfying and clean resolution to the problem. You might
check the drive in the program you used to format the drie and see if
something similar happened to you.

Daly Jessup

				Daly Jessup mailto:jessup@san.rr.com

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:55:42 +1100 (EST)
From: geoffrey john craig <geoffrey@ee.mu.OZ.AU>
Subject: OS8 Sound input

I'm running OS8 on a PowerMac 6100/66 with Dos card, and need to
set the sound input to internal CD to hear sounds on the Dos side.
I am able to set it, but every time I restart the computer I have
to set it again. Is it possible to save the setting so that the
sound input is always set to internal CD?

TIA

Geoff Craig

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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 97 10:56:18 -0600
From: "Brett L. Nordby" <bnordby@athena.valpo.edu>
Subject: PC Compatibility Card with MacOS 8

There seems to be a compatibility issue between the 100 mHz Pentium PC 
Compatibility Card and MacOS 8.  The control panel crashes frequently 
when adjustments are made on the Mac side, and then the whole machine 
refuses to start unless the control panel is turned off.  This is with a 
totally clean system install.  The only solution is to reinstall the PC 
card stuff, only to see it happen again.  The machine is a PowerMac 
7200/120 with plenty of RAM and a second internal 2gb SCSI HD for the PC 
Card.

I can't get a clear response from Apple about this-- perhaps they're not 
totally aware of the problem.  Does anyone know if Apple is working on a 
fix (or if there is a fix already)?  Or if I'm the only one who's having 
such problems?!?  Thanks!

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:38:06 -0400
From: macman@eagleweb.net (chas)
Subject: QuickTime VR

This is an extension that lets you access QT Virtual Reality files on the Net.
It's a step ahead of the vanilla QT files.

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MacAttack with OS 8

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 19:32:53 -0400
From: macman@eagleweb.net (chas)
Subject: RAM

Just pop 'em in and go! Be sure,however, to turn on 32bit addressing (i'm
not sure whether or not your Mac has that option or if it is automatic)

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MacAttack with OS 8

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:20:00 +0800
From: Ted Holmes <telmie@bigpond.com>
Subject: Reaching Info-Mac archives

Greetings

I use Anarchie 2.0.1 to visit Info Mac mirror sites in Australia. If I know
the name of an item or what folder it is in I am okay as far as downloading
goes.

If I try to use Anarchie to reach/download an archive from the Info mac
digest (for example, get:  /info-mac/art/zine/machelp-ezine-vol-6.hqx;)
Anarchie never finds it.

I am still very much a novice when it comes to using FTP and I am probably
missing something really basic. I would appreciate it if you could tell me
what I need to do to reach the archives. TIA.

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:30:22 -0400
From: macman@eagleweb.net (chas)
Subject: read/write CD

I usually don't butt in however, had you thought of waiting awhile? You
KNOW that as soon as you get a 2x/6x something new will come out like
4x/12x. It's happened to me all too often with plain CD ROMs. I bought a
4x and not 2 months later came a 12x!  Anyway, I didn't address your
question. Sorry for the intrusion.

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MacAttack with OS 8

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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:46:27 -0500
From: Chaz Larson <chaz@visi.com>
Subject: System 3.2

>>I'd say he needs System 3.2; but I threw out my own copy of this after the
>>...um geological disturbance in Kobe a couple of years ago.
>
>I knew somebody who had almost every MacOS version from 2.0 and on.  I'll
>see if I can locate him.

I am such a person.

I have old Mac Developer CDs which contain every System from 0.1 to 6.0.7
as disk images.

I can mail them to interested parties.   Let me know via mail.

hcaz
10.25.1997

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:24:17 -0700
From: Chris Beck <cbeck@acme.csusb.edu>
Subject: System 8 & 68040

I say it's definitely worth your while.  I have it installed on my Performa
636CD (68LC040) with 36MB of real RAM and it is the best thing that has
ever happened to my computer.  Well, almost.  MacOS 8 is incredibly stable
compared to any previous release.  Just to warn you though, MacOS 8 does
take up a larger amount of RAM even with extension disabled, but I think
this adds to the stability.

>On Tue, 14 Oct Christopher Heard wrote
>
>I use a PowerBook 190/33 with 24MB RAM (physical). Is it worth my while to
>upgrade to MacOS 8?
>

Chris Beck, Student Network Analyst
Academic Computing & Media
California State University, San Bernardino
e-mail : cbeck@acme.csusb.edu

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 20:50:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Mark Fiske <mfiske@nike.heidelberg.edu>
Subject: used/reconditioned/refurbished Macs in the UK/NZ...

Hello:

If ANYONE out there knows the URLs for used-Mac resalers in the UK or New
Zealand, PLEASE e-mail them to me.

thanks alot,
Mark.

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