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Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 12 Feb 97       Volume 15 : Issue 35

Today's Topics:

      [*] TidBITS#365/10-Feb-97
      A: Hypercard to FMPro3.0 conversion
      Buying an older PowerBook
      Converter
      Creating a print server out of a networked Mac (Q)
      External CD-ROM Drive - help needed
      Good outlining app?
      Help with QuickCam and Appletalk
      Hypercard to FMPro3.0 conversion
      IIsi battery replacement
      Info-Mac Digest V15 #34
      Joystick opinions
      LCIII to LAN problems
      Line weigth printing problem with Word
      MacMall Gripe InfoMac #33
      Mobius FPD
      Muted Sound
      OpenDoc
      Powerbook 190cs
      Question for Info-mac
      removing resource forks
      saving text-to-speech as a sound file
      script for mail
      SigmaPlot 5.0.1 (Mac): Still buggy
      Space Shuttle Simulation
      The NeXT Apple Mistake (2 msgs)
      threefold template
      Warning to anyone who wanna buy from MacMall
      Word errors

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:54:54 GMT
From: Pascal.Gaulin@cambridge.simoco.com (Pascal Gaulin 6335)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#365/10-Feb-97

>From the TidBITS#365/10-Feb-97 summary:

> Is OpenDoc an Apple technology following in the footsteps of PowerTalk?

Merde! That one did scare me =:-()

What?!? Apple would scrap OpenDoc? Like they did for PowerTalk???
I rushed to read c.s.m.d and found that this was fortunately not the case.

There's nothing to worry about OD (if OpenTransport is OT, can OpenDoc be
OD?).
Everything seems to be going pretty well for this great technology. Just a
shame
we can't use it on our 68k machine because of this !@#% CFM68K bug.

Cheers all!


	Pascal.

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:12:23 -0500
From: "Alan H. Stein" <stein@math.uconn.edu>
Subject: A: Hypercard to FMPro3.0 conversion

Jon D Benson <bens0054@gold.tc.umn.edu> said:

>I have a user who is switching from a Mac to a PC.  she has been using a
>Hypercard address list for the past seven years and now we need to move
>it to a FMPro database.  Are there any utilities or other means by which I
>could convert her files?  Re-entering the data is not a option since
>there are over a thousand entries.

Ignoring the foolishness of switching from a Mac to an inferior machine, it
shouldn't be much of a challenge to write a Hypertalk script to go through
the address list and change it to a tab delimited file which can then
easily be imported into Filemaker.  I've done that sort of thing in both
directions several times.

Alan H. Stein  stein@math.uconn.edu   http://www.math.uconn.edu/~stein

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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:52:14 +1100
From: Bill Stanford <stanford@magna.com.au>
Subject: Buying an older PowerBook

Info-Mac Digest V15 #34:
pertus@mbox.vol.it (Ferdinando Pertusio) wrote:

>I have found a very good offer for a Powerbook 5300 , and would like to
>know if all the rumours about the quality slips on these machines are
>justified-the only fact I have found so far are that some of the machines
>had defective batteries.

and "Paul E. Mullen" <pmullen@gte.net> wrote:

>It seems I'll be purchasing a Powerbook in the next few days, and I
>find myself with the dilemna of choosing between the 190cs and the
>5300cs. The machine's primary purpose will be to give Web demonstrations
>to potential clients, and will function as my Mac away from home
>[snip]
>I know that I can get by just fine with the 190cs [snip] but I've got
>the money to afford a 5300cs.
>What is the current status of the 5300 in terms of reliability? I'm aware
>of the "Repair Extension Program" Apple put together after all the
>problems the 5300 had.

The problems with the 5300 and 190 might be summed up as: the screen
housings crack, and break, and the screen assembly itself "falls off"; the
power adaptor/charger jack input into the computer is flimsy, and the
socket breaks, the repair involving a logic board swop; the machines have
logic board flaws which can lead to random system crashes, they can crash
when simply sitting in the Finder idling; and, in addition (!) the FD of
the 190 has a bad failure rate.

The Extension Program mentioned by Paul covers the first three of these, at
least as I've seen it applied.  The FD problem with the 190 seems not to
have been acknowledged, as far as I've followed this.

Despite the extended warranty, I wouldn't recommend anyone buying either
the 5300 or 190 for heavy use, especially in a commercial or technical
context.  The real best-buy workhorse machine would be a PB500 series model
with a Newer or Apple ppc daughter board upgrade - these machines are
older, but they keep working.  And upgraded, with SpeedDoubler, they're
nearly as responsive, despite slow buses.

Best of all of course - let's keep Hooper out of this one - is to buy the
new fast 1400.  It's not beautiful - that's the PB540! - but it's what the
5300's should have been.

Hope this helps... sorry it's bad news...


bill  <stanford@magna.com.au> <Bill_Stanford@knet.gol.com>

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:41:23 -0600 (CST)
From: "Anthony F. Erwin" <anthony@prairienet.org>
Subject: Converter

Is there a descent (or passable) app somewhere
that will convert pascal source code into c or
c++ source code? A friend of mine (who uses pascal)
sent me some files and being a c/c++_only user (for now)
I have yet to figure out what exactly the files refer
to etc. I have a fairly good idea of a few keywords
here and there, but a DropApp would make my life much
easier (even if it only converted a few things here
and there).

=================================================
-Anthony
  anthony@prairienet.org

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:49:32 -0800 (PST)
From: "Christopher Nathaniel Montague (Christopher \"Monte\" Montague)"
<cmontagu@polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu>
Subject: Creating a print server out of a networked Mac (Q)

Hello,

I've got a IIsi, and a Pmac 7100 networked via appletalk, and I want to
be able to have the IIsi take on the print jobs sent out from the PMac.

Thanks for any help,

Chris

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:27:40 +0000
From: chrisjenkin&hilarybraund <chrishilary@easynet.co.uk>
Subject: External CD-ROM Drive - help needed

Hi

I have a Performa 450 (a sad old LCIII) with 36mb ram and system 7.5.5.
It's slow - 25mhz 68030 processor.

However, until recently I have always been able to run many cd-roms on the
external 4x Pioneer drive. I'm using FWB's CD-ROM Toolkit=81 2.05.

Some cd-roms now crunch around in the drive and refuse to load, though they
used to run fine - eg Cinemania 97 - and are intended to on my old slow
machine.

I upgraded from System 7.1.2 and the OEM CD-ROM Toolkit 1.5.8 when this
started to happen; to no avail.

I do run SpeedDoubler, Aaron, RamDoubler, but switch these and all other
unnecessary extensions off when running CD-ROMs.

The latest advice I've had is to buy a different driver. I'm happy to do
that if someone recommends one.

The point is, however,  that the driver didn't use to be a problem; some
CD-ROM's still work fine (otherwise I couldn't have easily upgraded to
7.5.3 and then 7.5.5!) And all my cd-roms work fine on other drives.

I would appreciate any advice.

Chris Jenkin
London
chrishilary@easynet.co.uk

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:16:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Greg Madey <gmadey@dendrite.kent.edu>
Subject: Good outlining app?

Matt Neuburg said:

>I use MORE every day under 7.5.3, it still works great. Hmmm, if Symantec
>stops selling it, does this give owners the right to give copies away...?
>:-) m.

>P.S. For my TidBITS reviews of MORE and Inspiration, see my home page,
>listed below...

>matt neuburg, phd = matt@tidbits.com, http://www.tidbits.com/matt

Excellent review Matt.

I still have More 3.1 on my drive, but I've pretty much stopped using it
since More: 1) is not native, and 2) more importantly, it is incompatible
with the latest print drivers - it crashes my machine. I have to remember
to choose an older driver whenever I want to print old More documents.

Has anybody heard if Symantec is _really_ abandoning More??

Inspiration is native, compatible with the latest print drivers, and
file compatible with a Windoze version. But I sure miss More's ability to
make viewgraphs out of outlines.

Also: the latest Tidbits discusses an OpenDoc outliner component. Anybody
using it have an evaluation of it?

Greg Madey

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 18:01:59 +0000
From: "Robert C. Sprecher, M.D." <rcs8@en.com>
Subject: Help with QuickCam and Appletalk

Does anyone have a solution for this problem:

I want to use my QuickCam to videoconference over my modem. I have an HP
Laserjet that uses appletalk. Currently both the QuickCam and the
Laserjet are connected to an AB switch. I can't just switch to the
Quickcam because appletalk is active. If I turn off appletalk, Quickcam
still complains that the port is in use. I end up having to restart the
computer just to get quickcam to work.

TIA.
Rob


--
Robert C. Sprecher, M.D.
Assistant Professor
Pediatric Otolaryngology and Pediatrics
Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland, OH

http://www.cwru-ent.com/

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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 00:13:51 +1100
From: Bill Stanford <stanford@magna.com.au>
Subject: Hypercard to FMPro3.0 conversion

Info-Mac Digest V15 #34: Jon D Benson <bens0054@gold.tc.umn.edu> wrote:

>I have a user who is switching from a Mac to a PC.  she has been using a
>Hypercard address list for the past seven years and now we need to move
>it to a FMPro database.  Are there any utilities or other means by which I
>could convert her files?  Re-entering the data is not a option since
>there are over a thousand entries.

Jon, the usual sympathies go out to your colleague...

Getting tab-separated text out of HyperCard wasn't meant to be easy, and it
isn't.  There's no separate TEXT resource, and so tools like ResEdit or
CanOpener strike immediate problems.

The best thing I've found for this is a stack made by Robert Murray at MIT,
named Import/Export Tools.  I've used it successfully for exactly the job
you're facing - though my client was staying on a Mac <grin> - and it was
quite satisfactory, despite its final version, 2.2, having been produced in
1992.

It's on sumex mirrors, the path is /dev/card/import-export-tools-22.hqx

Good luck with this!

bill  <stanford@magna.com.au> <Bill_Stanford@knet.gol.com>

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 10:57:37 -0600
From: Lanny Chambers <creative@inlink.com>
Subject: IIsi battery replacement

>Recently, my IIsi began randomly losing settings like the desktop pattern
>and the 32-bit memory addressing.  Most things are fine, but it seems like
>every day for the past few, something is amiss when I boot up.  Is this
>just the battery getting ready to go or does anyone know of someting more
>dire?

Sure sounds like a dying battery.

>If it is the battery, is there a way to save all your settings so
>you can easily reset things.  On a PC, someone once recommended changing
>that battery with the system on.  Sounds risky; any opinions?

TechTool will save your PRAM settings, but it only takes a minute to
reconfigure everything from the relevant control panels. I'd be wary of
saving a corrupted setting, personally.

Don't even think about fooling with your Mac's innards unless it's
unplugged from the wall!

Lanny Chambers (creative@inlink.com) St. Louis, USA
Visit the Hummingbird Page: <http://www.derived.com/~lanny/hummers>

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:47:55 -0800
From: Gregg Koskela <gkoskela@worldaccess.com>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #34

>Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 13:54:48 +0100
>From: pertus@mbox.vol.it (Ferdinando Pertusio)
>Subject: Are PowerBook 5300 really glitchy?
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have found a very good offer for a Powerbook 5300 , and would like to
>know if all the rumours about the quality slips on these machines are
>justified-the only fact I have found so far are that some of the machines
>had defective batteries. Are there other types of hardware or software
>glitches? I have looked for data on the Web (including a search of the
>InfoMac site) but very little concrete evidence has emerged. Can anybody
>who owns such a machine shed any light on the issue?
>
>Thanking in advance for any help you are able to provide,
>
>Ferdy


Hello, Ferdinando-

I've read much about people who are VERY unhappy with their 5300. But, I'll
speak to my own experience. I've had a 5300 (grayscale screen) for almost a
year. Overall, I'm very happy with it, with these caveats:

1) It went in for the repair extension program to fix known problems. Have
this done, or make sure it was done. It fixes known problems with the AC
cord, plastics, and the bevel on the screen.

2) I also had my external video fail. This was repaired in less than two
days via Airborne Express...and I was impressed by Apple's service. (unlike
many, many others, it seems.)

3) Since I updated to system 7.5.5 and dropped RAM Doubler, my system is
extremely stable. I've had one crash in the last 3 months. I upgraded to 40
mb of RAM, which improved speed and allowed me to drop RAM Doubler.

It's obviously not fast compared to the new desktop Power Macs, but I
couldn't beat a $1300 investment that gave me Power PC that I could take
anywhere. In fact, I like it so much, the new 1400 doesn't even raise a
flicker of envy. But when I think about the new 3400.....

Gregg Koskela
Newberg, Oregon, USA


__________________________
Gregg Koskela
Education Pastor, Newberg Friends Church, Newberg, Oregon.
Husband of Elaine, Natalie's Daddy
Check out my web page: http://www.worldaccess.com/~gkoskela
__________________________

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:08:17 -0500
From: Randall Meadows <meadowsr@fgm.com>
Subject: Joystick opinions

[cross-posted to MAC-L and Info-Mac]

Anyone got any opinions on the Gravis "BlackHawk" vs. "FireBird" vs.
"MouseStick II"?  Or any other recommendations?

Quality of manufacture, software support, long-term use comfort,
reliability...?

Do I really need the 9 additional programmable buttons and 8-position hat
switch (what IS that, anyway?!) that the FireBird offers over the BlackHawk
for ~$10 more?  Use will be with your run-of-the-mill flight simulators
(Hellcats, for right now).


Thanks...
randy

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 9:57:02 -0600
From: JUHLIG@JJHS.Columbia.K12.MO.US
Subject: LCIII to LAN problems

I am trying to connect an LCIII to a LAN.  After installing the network drivers
and MacTCP
and restarting I get a message stating "the internet is now available" and am
directed to
select the correct mode of AppleTalk from the network control panel.  The
correct mode is
ethernet, but when I select it no zones show up and that cryptic message pops
up again.  I
have reinstalled the network drivers, zapped the PRAM, rebuilt the desktop,
changed the
ethernet card, reseated the ethernet card, attached my powerbook to the line
(it connected
to the server with no problem).  If  you have any suggestions please email me.
John Uhlig
Technology Specialist
Jefferson Junior High School
juhlig@jjhs.columbia.k12.mo.us

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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:26:04 +0200
From: "Ramiro A. Varela" <rvarela@uvigo.es>
Subject: Line weigth printing problem with Word

Dear Netters,

I would like to have your feedback about how to improve printing pictures
>From Word, either v.5.1a or 6.0. My problem appears when I import pictures
or graphs from, say, DeltaGraph 4.0, and then print from Word, line weigth
is changed to a much larger one. The problem appears with my inkjet 850C,
but not with a a laser as the HP 5MP. When I print directly from DeltaGraph
to the 850C everything is fine. I tried several different combinations of
imports and options within both programs, cut and paste, changed drivers
for the HP, called Delta Point Technical Support, everything I can think of
but with no luck.  Any suggestion?  Is there a way to tell Word to use
another program (i.e. DeltaGraph) at printing time?

Thanks very much in advance,

Ramiro Varela
Department of Applied Physics
University of Vigo, SPAIN

Dr. Ramiro A. Varela
Universidade de Vigo
Facultade de Ciencias   Depto. Fisica Aplicada
Lagoas-Marcosende s/n   Aptdo. 874 36200 Vigo
Tel.(3486)812643        Fax.(3486)812556

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:36:20 -0500 (EST)
From: "Melody Biddle (317) 306-7481" <BIDDLEM@tlinks.nawc-ad-indy.navy.mil>
Subject: MacMall Gripe InfoMac #33

* We don't know if we will still have to pay for the monitor or not even
 * though we have never seen it. But MacMall's handling of this problem gave
 * us a very bad perception and we thought that other Mac users may experience
 * similar problems with them in the future, so we send this letter to these
 * newsgroups to warn all people who want to purchase from MacMall:

WELLLLLLL.......
You're problem isn't with MacMall....it's with Federal Express.  They are the
ones that lost your package.  Once MacMall calls Federal Express and files a
claim on the package (providing serial numbers, model numbers, date shipped,
etc.), Federal Express can sniff out where your package ended up.

My husband recently ordered some items from MacMall.  When the Federal
Expressed material arrived on Saturday (on time, I might add), they weren't
what he asked for.

He called MacMall on Saturday and they said they would send Fed Ex out with an
air bill on Monday afternoon (Fed Ex doesn't ship on Sunday).  Sure enough, on
Monday Fed Ex called to make sure someone was home.  Within fifteen minutes
the Fed Ex guy showed and picked up the package of wrong materials.  The next
evening we came home to find the correct materials sitting on our doorstep.

Although we were disappointed with the mistake in shipping, MacMall did make
good on it.

Whenever you call to order something, ALWAYS take down the name of the
Customer Service Rep that helped you, and any other people you talk to in
future calls.  It helps to have a name to blame!  In situations where you feel
you have been mistreated, my advice would be to call and ask for the Customer
Service Supervisor/Manager and tell them what happened.

If you look at the whole process, MacMall is not at fault--Federal Express is.
They are the ones that lost your monitor.  Once MacMall has been notified by
Federal Express that the monitor was lost (through proper channels), MacMall's
shipping department will file a claim and Federal Express will make good on
it.  MacMall has to contact Federal Express to make the claim because they
have the necessary information to track the monito (serial numbers, when it
was shipped, etc.)

Just relax and be patient.  I'm sure your monitor will be there soon.  Due to
Federal Express losing the package in transit, MacMall has to do some extra
work.

I would think if you were going to boycott anyone, it would be Federal
Express---they are the ones that lost your package.  But realistically, they
are all human (as are we) and make mistakes now and then.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 11:23:28 -0000
From: Harold Star <starh@cvn.net>
Subject: Mobius FPD

My favorite monitor is a Mobius FPD purchased many years ago. It's
currently connected to my Quadra 650 through a NuBus card purchased
directly from Mobius.

I'm thinking of upgrading to a Power Mac but don't know where to go to
get a PCI card compatible with the monitor. Mobius appears to have
disappeared and I've been bounced around the tech support lines of many
companies which supposedly purchased Mobius' remains.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Harold Star

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 10:57:39 -0600
From: Lanny Chambers <creative@inlink.com>
Subject: Muted Sound

>I have a friend with a 7500 that likes to play Audio CDs while she works.
>However, every time she restarts the computer the sound output is muted in
>the Sounds and Monitors control panel. Does anyone know what causes this
annoying
>behavior and the remedy?

It's a bug/feature. The solution is Unmute-it (on Info-Mac), which comes
in two flavors: an extension and an application (for the Startup Items
folder). I use the latter, and it works perfectly.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:08:54 -0500
From: "Randall C. Scutt" <rcscutt@usgs.gov>
Subject: OpenDoc

(I am running a PPC 8500/120 32Mb RAM)

Yesterday I upgraded to 7.6.  I've been experimenting with OpenDoc and the
Apple Button, Draw, and Audio.  I am trying to make a URL link using Apple
Button; however, after doing the steps from Apple Guide, all it will do is
speak the URL I created in Simple Text & Notebook.  I can't find anything
under Part Info; also, the Preferences (under Edit) is whited out and I am
unable to access that menu.  I checked at www.opendoc.apple.com, but
couldn't find any answers.  (1) To make a URL link, does this have to be
scripted?  (2) How do I access the Preferences menu?  TIA.

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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:33:15 -0500
From: Jeff Frankel <jfrankel@gwi.net>
Subject: Powerbook 190cs

On Feb 10, Paul Mullen wrote:

> It seems I'll be purchasing a Powerbook in the next few days, and I
>find myself with the dilemna of choosing between the 190cs and the
>5300cs. The machine's primary purpose will be to give Web demonstrations
>to potential clients, and will function as my Mac away from home
>secondarily (my home system is a Performa 630). I know that I can get by
>just fine with the 190cs (seeing as how its almost identical to my 630 in
>terms of processing power), but I've got the money to afford a 5300cs.
>What is the current status of the 5300 in terms of reliability? I'm aware
>of the "Repair Extension Program" Apple put together after all the
>problems the 5300 had. Are the newer ones "fixed" straight from the
>factory? I can afford the PowerPC, but I _can't_ afford a flaky
>laptop.

I can't opine on the reliability of the 5300cs.  But sad to say, my son
and I have had nothing but problems --big and continual problems-- with
the 190cs we bought in December 1995.  Most maddening of all has been
the long wait we have experienced for replacement parts-- a screen in
one instance, a keyboard in another.  As far as relative speed is
concerned, I and one other person in my office have found that the 190cs
does not operate as fast overall as the Performa 575.  I believe (and
others can correct me if I am wrong) that the 190cs, 630 and 575 all
share the same 68040LC 33mz processor.
--
Jeff Frankel
Windsor, Maine  USA

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:44:55 +0000
From: Tegnestuen <tegnstue@datashopper.dk>
Subject: Question for Info-mac

I am the admistrator of a Mac network with 3 PowerMacs (8100,100MHZ,
7100/66 MHZ and a 8500/150 MHZ). The macs are connected to an Ethernet
and have access to 2 printers: a HP Laserjet 4MV (Ethernet) and a
IBM Lexmark 4079 Plus (Localtalk).

The Lexmark 4079 Plus is connected to the ethernet, via a Dayna Mini
Etherprint box.

The printer has 36MB RAM (Maximum configuration), but does not print
very fast.

I have asked several suppliers, whether it could upgraded to a REAL
ethernet printer and the result is DEFINTELY not clear!.

Some dealers (Mac-Warehouse),  say it is possible to insert an Ethernet
Network card to aprox. 700$,  but they won't guarante that printer
throughput is actually improved, because the printer basically still
is a Localtalk printer (true??? and what is the idea of using $700 ?
on it then)

Mac-Zone says that throughput (No. of pages printed pr. min), will
be identical to a Localtalked printer,  but sending the printjob
via ethertalk, will free up the mac faster.

Lexmark says that printer will print as an real ethernet printer,
but they dont actually sell the product, but refers to other stores
(and I doubt that the salesman really knew what he talked about...)

What I want is that the printerspeed is INCREASED, I am NOT interested
in software control facilities of the printer like Mark Visions
(Check of no. of pages printed ect. ect.)

If you can give me some concise facts, or other better solutions,
please do so

Thanks in advance

Lars Lindgren
Tegnstue@datashopper.dk

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Feb 97 04:39:54 JST
From: nagata@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Mark Nagata)
Subject: removing resource forks

In Info-Mac Digest #34, Matt Neuburg said:

> On Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:47:45 +1000, Andrew Martin
> <a.martin@student.canberra.edu.au> said:
>
> >Is there any program to remove the resource fork from files? For some of my
> >Graphicconverter documents, the resource fork takes up more space than the
> >actual file itself!! I would prefer it if the program didnt remove the
> >type/creator part though (is that possible on a mac?).
>
> There's no need for this: it's only happening because you're telling
> Graphic Converter to include a preview. Check your Preferences:Save
> options...! :-)
>
> matt neuburg, phd = matt@tidbits.com, http://www.tidbits.com/matt
>
Hello, Matt,

Tsk, tsk...  You should have TRIED it before sending that answer out...

Actually this is (what I consider) a bug (or, at least, misfeature)
of GraphicConverter (and also a LOT of other software do the same thing),
but it creates a nonempty resource fork when it saves a file, even when no
resource is contained in the resource fork.

Try it -- you un-check both of 'Create custum icon' and 'Create preview'
in the preferences dialog, and use 'Save as...' in GraphicConverter
the result: the saved file has a 286-byte resource fork, which contains
only the resource map and doesn't contain any resource.

But even though the fork is only 286 bytes, it occupies one file block
-- a whooping 18.5K on my 1GB hard disk...
(18.5K per file is too much space to give, for a fork that does not contain
any real information!)

I use Ralph Sutherland's freeware ClearRes (which has vanished from the
Info-Mac years ago), but I would recommend puriTEXT 1.1
info-mac/disk/puri-text-11.hqx
which works very nicely (but, for safety reasons, it ONLY removes the
resource fork from files of type 'TEXT', 'PICT' and 'SITD').

Mark
--
Mark Nagata
mailto:nagata@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:21:14 -0500
From: matt fletcher <fletcher@hda.net>
Subject: saving text-to-speech as a sound file

hi, everybody.

i've been playing with sound lately, but cannot find a way to save
apple's text-to-speech to disk as a sound file. seems like it should be
simple, but i haven't found a way to do it.

so: anyone know of a program that will allow me to type a line of text
and have my mac both say it and save it to disk? (any sound format would
be fine.)

thanks.

m. fletcher
http://members.aol.com/fakenancy/
see you in hell!

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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:08:21 -0600
From: waechter@ibw.com.ni (Steve Waechter)
Subject: script for mail

Is there an apple script posted anywhere that would enable me to (a) log
onto my provider with PPP, (b) open Eudora, (c) do check mail in Eudora,
and (d) close the PPP connection--all in one keystroke?  Or could anyone
give directions on how I could write something like this with AppleScript?
Thanks for the help.

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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:27:26 -0800
From: kroemer@apex.ece.ucsb.edu (Herb Kroemer)
Subject: SigmaPlot 5.0.1 (Mac): Still buggy

In January 1996, Jandel released a VERY buggy version of Sigmaplot 5
for the Mac, a scientific plotting program (see my report in
infomacv14-034). Yesterday, I received version 5.0.1. You would assume
that a year is enough to fix all the bugs, or at least the most glaring
ones. Well, the very first of the old bugs for which I checked -- a
pretty deadly one -- is still there:

Suppose you have a linear axis, but the label numbers are such that you
want them in STANDARD scientific notation of the form "M 10**X", where
M is a mantissa, and my 10**X stands for
"10-followed-by-superscript-X", not that "coputerese" form
"e-followed-by-inline-X", which many scientific journals will not even
accept. The program is still incapable of handling that! If M should be
a positive number, the mantissa is simply missing, so you may end up
with several identical "10**X" labels in a row. If M should be zero,
you get X="-INF" (minus infinity) instead, and if M should be negative,
you get "NAN" (not a number). Things get even more "interesting" if you
add labels to MINOR divisions.  The minor labels may have a mantissa,
even though the major ones don't. But minor labels adjacent to a zero
major label may show up as zero, too (even in non-scientific notation).

You just wonder who is doing their beta-testing -- if any.

I didn't check for any more bugs: The above ones are bad enough that I,
for one, will never use the program in its present form, and I have at
this point given up hope that they will get their act together in the
foreseeable future.

Herb Kroemer

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:01:10 -0600
From: JUHLIG@JJHS.Columbia.K12.MO.US
Subject: Space Shuttle Simulation

I am looking for a good space shuttle flight simulalion program to run on a
Macintosh.
There is a program avaiblable for IBM's but I have not been able to find one
for Mac's.
This is to be used for a junior high simulated space shuttle mission.
John Uhlig
Technology Specialist
Jefferson Junior High School
juhlig@jjhs.columbia.k12.mo.us

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 23:36:44 -0000
From: Axel Steininger <axel.steininger@uibk.ac.at>
Subject: The NeXT Apple Mistake

>It doesn't matter what kind of processors the NeXT OS currently runs on.
>In fact, it started off on 680x0-based hardware, just like the MacOS!  The
>source code just has to be copied over to a PowerPC machine and recompiled.
>They'll have to replace, rewrite, or modify parts of it to make it work,
>but it's far from a total rewrite.  The kernel in particular will need to
>be replaced, but Apple can just take an existing kernel that already works
>on the PowerPC, possibly even the Copland kernel that they've been working
>on for the past few years.
>
>As for stuff like QuickDraw and QuickTime, they don't have to "recreate"
>those from scratch.  The existing MacOS 7.x code can be used, with
>appropriate changes to interface it with the OpenStep code.
>
>
>Finally, I'd like to point out that the press has grossly exagerated the
>need for a new MacOS.  Everybody has been bitching that it's been too long
>since the last major upgrade, and that MacOS 7.x doesn't have pre-emptive
>multitasking, protected memory, etc.  I say, so what?  The MacOS works and
>is pretty damned stable on my Mac-- especially compared to the Windoze 95
>machine I use at work.

My opinion exactly. First, my Mac is darn stable and darn fast. (And it's
only a 7500/100 without cache). At work I'm able to get my hands on a few
9500/200s and machines like that. They rule. No comparison to any Windoze
clone. Everything happens instantly.
Mac OS 7.5.x: Install new software - bang, it works. Download a few games
>From the Web - bang, they work. When you download stuff for Wintel, half
of it doesn't work and the rest is crap. (No joke, I've seen it happen.)
Second, if the new OS even is only a little bit better than the old one,
it will blow away any DOS machine.

Cheers,

Axel Steininger,  Member of the Digital Freedom Alliance

axel.steininger@uibk.ac.at
beyond.windows@TheOffice.Net

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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:04:38 -0500
From: daiyanh@mindspring.com (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCR2s4NkJnQkBPOhsoQg==?=)
Subject: The NeXT Apple Mistake

>Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 01:20:50 -0800 (PST)
>From: Diamond <kdiamond@lausd.k12.ca.us>
>Subject: The NeXT Apple Mistake
>
>Let me start off by saying I'm a loyal Macintosh user for about 10 years
>and debate its infinitely greater OS and computers against Windoze
>users.

Hmmm.  I'm a self-proclaimed Mac loyalist in its 13th year...  But I don't
have to bring up Windoze everytime I say so, because it's a waste of time
to compare the two.

>But after Apple opted to buy NeXT I feel betrayed....
>
>Apple no longer cares about what is best for its loyal users and instead
>feels it must try and attract a new market, at our expense.

That's funny.  Because if so, then how come Apple slashed Mac prices after
the NExT purchase?  Mac 7600/132 for $1800, Mac 8500/150 for $2200,...the
price cuts of $500, $700,... (Based on list prices.  You may or may not get
further discounts depending on where you live in US.)  Who pays for these
$500s and $700s and so on?

>Apples
>purchase of NeXT is less a method of creating a great new OS in a faster
>amount of time and more based on trying to enter the intranet market.

You seem to have a great insider knowledge stuff.  Shall I ask which stock
to buy next?

>NeXT with its WebObjects offers a great atempt for Apple to enter the
>intranet market with a bang. But Apple needs to separate that from the
>OS. The NextStep OS does not run Motorola processors, but rather Intel,
>meaning we will have to wait for it to be ported to our PowerPC chips.
>NextStep does not support QuickDraw, or Quicktime.  Meaning an extensive
>amount of time being spent on just recreating that.  All this is before
>even beginning to incorporate the MacOS into it.  We will be lucky to
>have anything before 1999.

Apple failed on Copland.  Or at least as I understand it.  Maybe we are
lucky to have something with NextStep and Raphsody and so on.  No?  And how
can you so open handedly proclaim that the PowerPC is the de facto standard
of Mac's?  I don't think I saw a PPC Mac 10 years ago.  Have you?  It's
Apple's credit to convert from 68k to PPC in such a short perio of time and
without causing too much trouble.  They have done that before.  Why not
again.  And which 386 peecee can play QuickTime plugin in Netscape 3 as on
my 030 Mac?---Don't you think this is a testimonial to Apple's technical
superiority?

>
>Apple had a prospect of buying Be.  Which they should have done if they
>had the intentions of grouping with a company to build the new OS.  Be
>already runs on PowerPC processors and supports QuickDraw and even the
>current Mac ROMs.  All this would mean the immediate incorporation of
>the two OSs.

Now this is a hard choice to make.  Or maybe not.  It reminded me of Andy
Hertzfeld's "switchable Finder" (I forgot the exact name) bakc in late
'80s, when I was on Prodigy.  At the time, Apple had an option to buy it
>From Mr. Hertzfeld.  But instead, they went on their own and came up with
MultiFinder.  Some of Mac users were very critical of this move by Apple.
But this MultiFinder eventually evolved into a standard Finder we see
today, and the best days of Apple were after such a move.  Maybe they have
a reason this time too.  Or let's hope so.  But don't forget to consider
any possible corporate politics involved also.  The co-founder's brainchild
against the former European chief's.  Take your pick.  (But of course, in
retrospect it's easier to say this.)

>
>Your responces??
>
>Kevin Diamond   kdiamond@lausd.k12.ca.us
>http://www.kamidesign.com/diamond/

The only way we get cheap and reliable computers is to get cheap and
reliable components.  By opting to NExT's workstation platform, thereby
with all the standard hardware componetnts, Apple is in better position to
that end.  The CHRP concept is within this framework too.  The remaining
technical problem, as you mentioned, is the porting of software.  The track
record shows that Apple has the best record in this regard in the industry.
 No kiddin'.

However, the business side of the issue is far more complicated.  This is
where I would worry if I were you.  That is, why aren't people buying
better (and faster) computers?  The price?  The recent price cuts put Mac's
on par with peecee's (at least with IBM prices).  Availability?  Anyone can
order a Mac by a toll-free phone call.  Exposure?  Blame on the media,
i.e., ever increasing advertising costs despite the slow moving economy (in
contrary to Clinton's claims).  Demos?  How can you go wrong when you see
the Finder desktop?  Or QuickTime plugin in NS3?  Even an idiot can
demonstrate a Mac.  (Networking may bew a different story tho', unless it's
AppleTalk which is almost a snap.)  Support?  Hmmm...  The more Mac friends
you have, the better you are informed.  This could be one area where Apple
needs to address.  INFO-MAC is good, but far too short of meeting the
objectives.  Up till recently, Apple has stressed on the starting point:
the education.  But since students are poor by and large (no offense to
students out there), they shifted the gear toward businesses with heavy
purses---end point of the society if you will.  (They can target the
retirees too.  But they need heck of a support to do it.)

One thing I noticed is that we don't get to see killer apps anymore.  This
is one reason why PC sales are sluggish in general.  Someone in Info-Mac
wrote recently that the key is OS.  Well well well, MacOS is still faster
and easier OS than any other.  The benchmark test after benchmark test
clearly show this.  The workaplce productivity gain is significantly higher
with Mac's than any other.  Whatever, maybe people's taste has changed from
'80's hi-tach frenzy (VCR's, MTV's, cable TV's, etc.) to something else.
Not sure what it is.  I thought videoconferencing would catch the fire, but
met with too many technical problems not necessarily attributable to Mac's.
 In the end, people are too worried about daily lives, I guess.

Daitaro Hagihara

PS. Anyone who takes my silly rambling seriously would be regarded as such.
 This was a case study in my months' frustration against Apple and comments
made against it by self-proclaimed market analysts on TV and elsewhere.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 13:25:00 -0500
From: Stan Hadley <hadleysw@ornl.gov>
Subject: threefold template

Gary,

The easiest way is to simply use page setup to make the paper landscape,
and specify three columns in the Format:Section command. You can play with
the space in between columns on this dialogue. You might also want to
change the margins for the page as a whole instead of the default 1 inch.

To make a brochure simply have two pages; print the first and then refeed
the paper to print the second, making sure you have the orientation right.
When I bought Clarisworks I received a program called Clickbook that
automated much of this. You could look into getting it.

HTH

Stan Hadley



>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:55:29 -0500
>From: gmason@jmjm.HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Mason)
>Subject: [Q] Anyone have a "threefold" template for ClarisWorks?
>
>I have to put together a brochure. It is to be of the "threefold" type
>for letter size page (or legal), folded twice to yield three panels on
>each side. It should (but not MUST) flow text between the panels.
>
>Other suggestions?
>
>Thanks...Gary
>
>--
>   **  Gary Mason - Interleaf, Inc., Waltham, MA USA    617/768-1553  **
>   **  gmason@interleaf.com    www.interleaf.com    FAX 617/290-4960  **
>
>------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:04:59 -0500
From: daiyanh@mindspring.com (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCR2s4NkJnQkBPOhsoQg==?=)
Subject: Warning to anyone who wanna buy from MacMall

A bizarre bizarre story.  So these things really do happen then.  Shame on
MacMall.  And hanging up on customers.  Uh.  She must have come from a
federal job somewhere before.  But the company behind her is even worse.
Because we may think that it's a company policy not to deal with lost
shipping items, which is contrary to our understanding of their
door-to-door services.

But I guess not all mail order companies are bad.  I find those with PC
sales behind them to be generally pretty reliable.  That includes
MacConnection, MacWarehouse, CDW (Computer Discount Warehouse), and so on.
Especially the first two are the exemplaries IMHO.  (That doesn't mean they
don't make mistakes BTW.)

Daitaro Hagihara

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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:40:15 +1100 (EST)
From: rydingk@netspace.net.au (Keith Ryding)
Subject: Word errors

Can you advise us on a problem we're having with a new 5260?

Whenever she opens Microsoft Word 6.0.1 she always gets the message that
"the application quit becaise a Type 1 Error occurred".  When she opens
Word again it is usually alright.


Many thanks
Keith

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